diff --git a/server/src/uds/core/managers/user_service.py b/server/src/uds/core/managers/user_service.py
index 7c6c81b0e..4aa5d1ff6 100644
--- a/server/src/uds/core/managers/user_service.py
+++ b/server/src/uds/core/managers/user_service.py
@@ -67,6 +67,9 @@ from uds.web.util.errors import MAX_SERVICES_REACHED
 from .userservice import comms
 from .userservice.opchecker import UserServiceOpChecker
 
+if typing.TYPE_CHECKING:
+    from uds import models
+
 logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
 traceLogger = logging.getLogger('traceLog')
 
@@ -81,9 +84,8 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
             UserServiceManager()
         )  # Singleton pattern will return always the same instance
 
-    @staticmethod
-    def getCacheStateFilter(servicePool: ServicePool, level: int) -> Q:
-        return Q(cache_level=level) & UserServiceManager.getStateFilter(servicePool)
+    def getCacheStateFilter(self, servicePool: ServicePool, level: int) -> Q:
+        return Q(cache_level=level) & self.getStateFilter(servicePool.service)
 
     @staticmethod
     def getStateFilter(servicePool: ServicePool) -> Q:
@@ -96,21 +98,37 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
 
     def _checkMaxDeployedReached(self, servicePool: ServicePool) -> None:
         """
-        Checks if maxDeployed for the service has been reached, and, if so,
-        raises an exception that no more services of this kind can be reached
+        Returns the number of running user services for this service
         """
-        serviceInstance = servicePool.service.getInstance()
+        return UserService.objects.filter(
+            self.getStateFilter(service) & Q(deployed_service__service=service)
+        ).count()
+
+    def maximumUserServicesDeployed(self, service: 'models.Service') -> bool:
+        """
+        Checks if the maximum number of user services for this service has been reached
+        """
+        serviceInstance = service.getInstance()
         # Early return, so no database count is needed
         if serviceInstance.maxDeployed == services.Service.UNLIMITED:
-            return
+            return False
 
         numberOfServices = servicePool.userServices.filter(
             self.getStateFilter(servicePool)
         ).count()
 
-        if serviceInstance.maxDeployed <= numberOfServices:
+        return False
+
+    def __checkMaxDeployedReached(self, servicePool: ServicePool) -> None:
+        """
+        Checks if maxDeployed for the service has been reached, and, if so,
+        raises an exception that no more services of this kind can be reached
+        """
+        if self.maximumUserServicesDeployed(servicePool.service):
             raise MaxServicesReachedError(
-                'Max number of allowed deployments for service reached'
+                _('Maximum number of user services reached for this {}').format(
+                    servicePool
+                )
             )
 
     def _createCacheAtDb(
@@ -532,7 +550,7 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
         if serviceType.usesCache:
             inAssigned = (
                 servicePool.assignedUserServices()
-                .filter(UserServiceManager.getStateFilter(servicePool))
+                .filter(self.getStateFilter(servicePool.service))
                 .count()
             )
             if (
@@ -550,12 +568,14 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
         events.addEvent(servicePool, events.ET_CACHE_MISS, fld1=0)
         return self.createAssignedFor(servicePool, user)
 
-    def getServicesInStateForProvider(self, provider_id: int, state: str) -> int:
+    def getUserServicesInStatesForProvider(
+        self, provider: 'models.Provider', states: typing.List[str]
+    ) -> int:
         """
         Returns the number of services of a service provider in the state indicated
         """
         return UserService.objects.filter(
-            deployed_service__service__provider__id=provider_id, state=state
+            deployed_service__service__provider=provider, state__in=states
         ).count()
 
     def canRemoveServiceFromDeployedService(self, servicePool: ServicePool) -> bool:
@@ -563,8 +583,8 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
         checks if we can do a "remove" from a deployed service
         serviceIsntance is just a helper, so if we already have unserialized deployedService
         """
-        removing = self.getServicesInStateForProvider(
-            servicePool.service.provider.id, State.REMOVING
+        removing = self.getUserServicesInStatesForProvider(
+            servicePool.service.provider, [State.REMOVING]
         )
         serviceInstance = servicePool.service.getInstance()
         if (
@@ -579,12 +599,12 @@ class UserServiceManager(metaclass=singleton.Singleton):
         """
         Checks if we can start a new service
         """
-        preparing = self.getServicesInStateForProvider(
-            servicePool.service.provider.id, State.PREPARING
+        preparingForProvider = self.getUserServicesInStatesForProvider(
+            servicePool.service.provider, [State.PREPARING]
         )
         serviceInstance = servicePool.service.getInstance()
-        if (
-            preparing >= serviceInstance.parent().getMaxPreparingServices()
+        if self.maximumUserServicesDeployed(servicePool.service) or (
+            preparingForProvider >= serviceInstance.parent().getMaxPreparingServices()
             and serviceInstance.parent().getIgnoreLimits() is False
         ):
             return False
diff --git a/server/src/uds/core/workers/servicepools_cache_updater.py b/server/src/uds/core/workers/servicepools_cache_updater.py
index 8a78ee529..4310dae57 100644
--- a/server/src/uds/core/workers/servicepools_cache_updater.py
+++ b/server/src/uds/core/workers/servicepools_cache_updater.py
@@ -140,7 +140,7 @@ class ServiceCacheUpdater(Job):
             )
             inAssigned: int = (
                 servicePool.assignedUserServices()
-                .filter(userServiceManager().getStateFilter(servicePool))
+                .filter(userServiceManager().getStateFilter(servicePool.service))
                 .count()
             )
             # if we bypasses max cache, we will reduce it in first place. This is so because this will free resources on service provider